Despite being so cool that I quote Superchunk anthems from 1990, it took me a long time to admit how outdated I actually am. I cringe at some of my blog posts, hinting at this — like the one from Dec. 2018 when I discovered streaming or the one from Nov. 2013 when I declared "The Sopranos" the greatest TV show ever.
This post could be about me discovering podcasts way late in the game, basically 2020. But not really. It's about me justifying why SmartLess is the only podcast I listen to religiously. I'm not sure if you've heard, but there are a few podcasts out there nowadays. They're pretty uncommon, but, yeah, they're out there.
So out of 100 trillion podcasts, SmartLess with Jason Bateman, Will Arnett and Sean Hayes is the only one that I've listened to every single episode. If you told me I'd enjoy a podcast of celebrities interviewing celebrities, I'd think that couldn't be possible with my sensibility.
Ultimately, the biggest hurdle I've been trying to reconcile with SmartLess is that it's OK to like something that is redonkulously commercial. I mean, come on, the podcast gets the biggest names in show biz and basically the world. Three months ago, they interviewed President Biden, and within the past three weeks, they've had Steven Spielberg and Bono. Wow.
On one level, SmartLess is a celebration of commercial success. But come on, the main reason I listen is because it makes me laugh, and Arnett, in particular, is freaking hilarious. OK, fine, SmartLess, you win. I've always loathed celebrity culture — and the self-important douches who sit court-side at Laker games — but the SmartLess celebs make fun of themselves, and each other, enough that I like it.
It's a guilty pleasure listening to these middle-aged white millionaires interview other middle-aged white millionaires. Maybe I'm a bit jealous of them. I mean this weekend Bateman and Arnett are playing in the Pebble Beach Pro-Am. How could I not be jealous? ... That's much, much cooler, and way different, than court-side at a Laker game, by the way.
I'm not going to deprive myself of SmartLess because it's too mainstream or because it got sold for $80 million last year. I guess it's like my love for baseball and the Cleveland Guardians. Just because it's crazy commercial doesn't mean it's bad.
All three of the SmartLess hosts — Bateman, Arnett and Hayes — have had lengthy Hollywood careers, and they've all evolved. Of course, Bateman killed it with Ozark, and Arnett, who must really love GMC trucks, is all over TV. Flaked (2016-17) is my favorite of his work, and the soundtrack compiled by Pavement's Stephen Malkmus probably is my favorite of any TV show.
It took me a while to understand that pop culture constantly evolves, and if anybody is still watching Gunsmoke or M*A*S*H or even Seinfeld, then that person is probably living in yesteryear and still quoting "More Cowbell" — which is totally lame and not even close to as cool as quoting Superchunk, man.
Celebrity culture is vacuous, superficial and pretty lame. Perhaps that's why it's such a surprise that I've listened to all 134 episodes of SmartLess, even though I keep expecting my listening to tail off. I wonder how long this can possibly last, but if I keep laughing, I'll keep listening. But no GMC truck for me!